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.. and something I read today which shook me a bit ..
The gospel of grace is brutally devalued when Christians maintain that the transcendent God can only be properly honoured and respected by denying the goodness and the truth and the beauty of the things of this world ..Brennan Manning, The Ragamuffin Gospel



Comments (6)
Steve F. said:
"Do not love the world nor the things of the world, for if anyone loves the world the love for the Father is not in him". Perhaps we should expunge this verse from scripture?
Posted on April 17, 2008 6:28 PM
Bob K said:
Sure, right after we expunge some of these verses :
Posted on April 17, 2008 7:05 PM
Steve F. said:
You see, after we've expunge that one problematic verse in 1 John, we no longer need to do away with those other happy-happy-joy-joy verses :-)
Posted on April 18, 2008 9:42 AM
Bob K said:
Nah .. its way too fun to see how seemingly contradicting passages in the Scriptures messes up folks' carefully crafted religion.
Posted on April 18, 2008 4:27 PM
Daniel said:
But first we'll have to argue to death what "world" means and what in it is actually "good". :P
Posted on April 19, 2008 9:37 PM
Steve F. said:
A little clarification is in order.
The "world" in 1 John 2:15 is defined by verse 16 itself: the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the boastful pride of life.
I do not refer to God's creation because it's from the Father (v 16) and it is very good (Gen 1:31).
I have not read The Ragamuffin Gospel and have no inkling as to what Manning meant by "the things in this world".
Bob put up a bunch of verses praising God over His created world - which is a different "world" from the "world" I referred to in 1 John.
Posted on April 21, 2008 11:15 AM